REC BMS 16S - wer kennt sich aus ?

  • Da ich noch eine Alternative zum Autarctech BMS suche hab ich mal gestöbert....
    Wer hat denn das BMS von REC ? oder wer kennt sich damit aus ?
    http://www.rec-bms.com/BMS16S.html


    Das liest sich ja recht vernünftig und erscheint mir eine nette Alternative zum aktiven BMS zu sein.

    Zu wissen, was man weiß, und zu wissen, was man tut, das ist Wissen.
    Wer mehr zum DC Speicher wissen will erreicht mich per PN !

  • Das REC-BMS ist doch "Steinzeit" gegen das aktive Autarctech-BMS mit dem LTC3300. Ich würde mir wünschen dass ich irgendwo so ein aktives BMS, allerdings für E-Fahrzeuge geeignet und kaskadierbar bis in den Hochvolt-Bereich hinein kaufen könnte. Leider arbeiten die aber scheinbar nur mit OEMs zusammen ? Sei doch froh wenn du dieses 48V-BMS überhaupt geliefert bekommst, das ist wirklich momentan die "Creme de la Creme". Wie teuer ist denn sowas in der 16s-Ausführung ?

    "Ich hatte nie zuvor ein Produkt um das ich so betteln musste um es zu bekommen um später so kämpfen zu müssen und alles zu versuchen um es nur behalten zu dürfen"
    Peter Horton 2003 über sein GM EV1 in"Who killed the electric car"

  • Hello All,


    I have a REC Q16S Sunny Island compatible in my set-up,
    72Kwh second life Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Yuasa LEV40 batteries
    15S 32P 56.25 nominal Voltage, max voltage 61.5V matching voltage span of the SMA Sunny Island series.
    1 SI-8.0 single phase
    14.2Kwp solar genarator


    At the time of start of my project end 2016, it was the only bms I could find that had canbus connection with the SI series.
    See thread Nissan Leaf in an Sunny Island setup.
    I merely copied Tronds example, and was happy it worked.


    Cons:
    not easy to expand to more cells, since you need a master- slave configuration.
    soft ware is limited, yes it has a webgui interface, but special commands,
    like setting charge amps etc are done in command line.
    Pros:
    very helpful service desk, e-mail response 24hours
    REC has developed canbus interfaces to Studer, Victron,
    if you have the canbus protocol Tine Andrejasic will import it in their REC bms


    However, I have come across a alternative, http://www.batrium.com.
    not local Europe, but Australia.
    But what a difference, nearly open source, major inverter brands supported Solax Victron Studer and a lot more is possible.


    Cons
    far away, shipping not really cheap, slow in their e-mail response


    Pro's
    price wise for the product I think OK
    great software,
    great community,
    loads of youtube editorials
    http://www.diypowerwalls.com/f…attery-Management-Systems
    https://www.youtube.com/user/daromeresperyd/featured
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0pBauLp63yzf6sVdEOIUbA


    If I had the choice now, I''d buy a Batrium bms

    14,2Kwp Cis module pv plant, 2x Goodwe DT6000 1x Goodwe 2000S
    36Kw Yuasa LEV40 ESS+REC bms Q16S + SMA SI 8.0 single phase
    https://www.facebook.com/Carel1956/

    second-life li-ion ev batteries

  • Hello Carel


    I also took a look at the Batrium-BMS in the past like you and think it is one of the best available solutions at the moment at a good price but it's no active BMS like the Autarctech. Thats a big difference in function.
    Another point is that it's not centralised with a balancing board to mount on every cell like the REC . Thats ok for a stationary battery but not so good for automotive usage.


    many regards


    Klaus

    "Ich hatte nie zuvor ein Produkt um das ich so betteln musste um es zu bekommen um später so kämpfen zu müssen und alles zu versuchen um es nur behalten zu dürfen"
    Peter Horton 2003 über sein GM EV1 in"Who killed the electric car"

  • Hello Klaus,
    well said, you are right,
    not so good for automotive,
    but I'm interested in controlling features, in battery storage solutions,
    using second -live ev batteries.


    I think Batrium will do the job very well, may well be better than REc
    The company just released their Batrium Watchmon 4 bms,
    I was saving up some money,
    and probably will order one of these new kits to evaluate.


    Once I have it, will write a review.


    best Carel

    14,2Kwp Cis module pv plant, 2x Goodwe DT6000 1x Goodwe 2000S
    36Kw Yuasa LEV40 ESS+REC bms Q16S + SMA SI 8.0 single phase
    https://www.facebook.com/Carel1956/

    second-life li-ion ev batteries

  • Any news here?

  • Yes, and no- not really.

    Batrium is developing a new product Watchmon Plus, capable of balancing 6A,

    Looks promising


    But i went another route aimed at second-life ev batteries using existing oem cmu pcb board with an Arduino based master control unit.

    With the Simpbms one can control Tesla modules, YUASA cells found in Mitsubishi Outlander, in development is VW/BMW ev batteries.

    see snapshot photo's of SIMPbms board, and test riggs


    SIMPbms works out of the box with Victron and SMA Sunny Island range,


    At the moment we are working on a set-up with Simpbms and HV SMA Sunnyboy Storage series, together with Tesla modules and 12Kwh 320V Yuasa cells from Mitsubishi Outlander


    more info, see manual, or this link to DIY Electric cars forum

    https://www.diyelectriccar.com…er-bms-master-198263.html

    If interested contact me by pm


    14,2Kwp Cis module pv plant, 2x Goodwe DT6000 1x Goodwe 2000S
    36Kw Yuasa LEV40 ESS+REC bms Q16S + SMA SI 8.0 single phase
    https://www.facebook.com/Carel1956/

    second-life li-ion ev batteries